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Geeks name favorite geeks: all guys, no girls

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Who are the most favoritest geeks of geeks themselves? The geek dating site Geek 2 Geek took a survey, and the winners are:

1. Bill Gates
2. Stephen Hawking
3. Steve Jobs
4. Albert Einstein
5. Linus Torvalds
6. Kevin Mitnick
7. Kevin Smith
8. Kevin Rose
9. Leo Laporte
10. Joss Whedon

Not a girl among them.

Perhaps, as Deanna Zandt commented recently on the Guardian blog Comment Is Free, “digital culture is still biased against women.” Perhaps, as Annalee Newitz noted recently on AlterNet, it’s the result of “dickish biology or dickish culture that creates a problem like Slashdot,” where a link to an article of hers prompted not “a lively debate about technology and social justice, [but] a popular thread in the ‘comments’ area about whether [she] was too fat to be considered attractive.” Perhaps, as alicetiara at the “feminism and technology” blog Tiara.org suggests, we all need to:

speak out against sexist or homophobic comments whenever we see them on any tech-related site. They may get modded down (unlikely, if they’re half-way articulate or include a particularly hilarious anti-Micro$oft/pro-Linux joke), they may get ignored, but if the diversity of the readership becomes reflected in the diversity of the participants, eventually sexism will be considered unacceptable on the site. Even if it’s just for being tacky or off-topic.

And perhaps the fact that Deanna and Annalee and alicetiara are already making some noise means we’re on our way to making some future most-favorite-geeks list.

15 Comments

Who are female geeks that have been important to you?
I can't think of a single one. :-(
[fanboy] If I were interviewed about my top 10 favorite geeks.... you would probably be near the top of my list [/fanboy]
You, Kim Kommando, and Air America's Randi Rhodes, to name three. And why would someone's attractiveness or lack thereof be a factor in their geekery? I thought that on the Internet nobody knows if you're a dog? ;)
I'm wondering what definition of "geek" is being used that covers Kavin Smith, Steve Jobs and Albert Einstein. Is anyone who does anything to do with science, technology (even just *selling* technology), or pop culture a geek? I thought it was more than that. Female "geeks" that spring to mind: Curie, Sarah Vowell, Kaja Foglio, Ursula leGuin.
Yes, Maryann, YOU are definitely on the list! I add Joyce Reynolds (pioneering work in Internet protocols), Lucy Sanders (CEO Nat'l Center for Women & Info Technology), Marie Curie, and just for fun, all the female recappers on TWoP (esp Pammie and Sars).
Here's another: Laurie Anderson
"I thought that on the Internet nobody knows if you're a dog? ;)" Apparently, if you're female and your picture is online somewhere -- as Annalee Newitz's is -- you're fair game. "I'm wondering what definition of "geek" is being used that covers Kavin Smith, Steve Jobs and Albert Einstein. Is anyone who does anything to do with science, technology (even just *selling* technology), or pop culture a geek? I thought it was more than that." I think it is more than that, but it can be hard to define. Like porn: we know a geek when we see one. :-> Now that I think on it, I would have to say that SF writers Connie Willis and Lois Macmaster Bujold have been important influences on me.
OK last ones I promise: Chien-Shiung Wu, ground-breaking physicist Grace Hopper, Navy Rear Admiral, worked on the Mark I, invetor of the English-language-to-computer-language compiler.
What I find even more curious is a tangential question: how the hell is Bill Gates #1? Have I missed a massive geek rehabilitation of Bill Gates? Seems to me he's usually at the top of the Geek Enemies List. As alicetiara's comment implies, ritual denunciation of Gates and Microsoft is the de rigeur groupthink in many corners of the Internet. Personally, I've never cared all that much about him one way or the other, but I'm surprised to see him at the top.
I would guess the definition folks were leaning towards would be computer obsessed social misfits. I would include science or technology obsessed, making Einstein work. Folks are leaning away from the misfit thing though....popular, sexy, attractive geeks aren't my definition. Steve Jobs is a salesman & computer fashion designer. So he is definitely out. I also like the old definition of having a proclivity for biting the heads off live animals.
I agree that the misfit thing is gradually becoming less a part of the definition of geek. I'm working on a new definition -- I think I'll have something meaningful to post about it soon.
okay -female geeks -the point is that we need to add the qualifier 'female' to geek for people to get the point - until more women get into science and tech and comp sci-which i do think is happening in this gen -its gonna be hard to think of famous geek women- still besides mary-ann - see: http://news.com.com/2061-11204_3-5831020.html off point - i think bill gates is more deserivng of geekiness title than steve jobs -at least he is giving a large part of his wealth away - jobs for all his coolness seems more a marketer than geek and what are ipods after all but shiny plastic coverings for japanese hard drives?
For me, it's the other way around with Bill Gates and Steve Jobs. Gates makes barely functional software that is ugly and kludgy but that people are forced to use by mere dint of how entrenched it now is. (Plus, he basically stole DOS from its creator.) Jobs, on the other hand, makes beautifully designed, really elegant hardware and software that is a joy to use and a pleasure even to look at. Jobs embodies a new kind of geek philosophy that is about a well-rounded lifestyle that happens to include a lot of tech.
yeah well, i hate to defend gates - but i do think his poverty intiatives are a good idea your right he stole DOS but jobs also stole the mac GUI from XEROX pac labs -and Mac OS is UNIX derived - comp sci is about 'stealing' - ultimately building upon existing code - having read several jobs biographies- he dosent come across as a very nice person - but this all goes back to the original definition of the word 'geek' -it needs to defined better see this thread:- http://www.tuaw.com/2006/01/25/steve-jobs-capitalist-bill-gates-philanthropist/

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