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Since everyone's got their panties in a twist over immigrants who are supposedly ruining America, or something, a reminder of some of the people from other lands who came to these fine shores and helped make America what it is today: Carlos Santana (from Mexico), Charles Atlas (from Italy), and Gene Simmons (from Israel).

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ah, yes, but they all came here legally.
Maybe, but the rules were a LOT different when Charles Atlas came through Ellis Island...
Sure, illegals crossing the border, bringing down the wage standard, availing themselves of the American medical system by taking advantage of laws designed seemingly to entice them, that's what we want. Then of course, those of them who are violent criminals, sneaking in under cover of darkness are exactly what we need. Sho' nuff. Hell, open the borders, let 'em all in. Some more visitors to our shores who changed America: Mohamed Atta Wail Alshehri Waleed M. Alshehri Abdulaziz Alomari Satam M.A. Al Suqami Marwan Al Shehhi Fayez al-Hamadi Mohald al-Shehri Hamza Alghamdi Ahmed Alghamdi Hani Hanjour Nawaf Alhazmi Khalid Almihdhar Majed Moqed Salem Alhazmi Ziad Samir Jarrah Saeed Alghamdi Ahmed Alnami Ahmed I.A. Al Haznawi
The 9/11 hijackers were mostly in the U.S. legally, or had at least arrived legal and overstayed visas. Don't smear all immigrants, legal or not, with the crimes of a few. Also, many illegal immigrants pay taxes in all sorts of ways, from filing tax returns in order to prove long-term residency and gainful employment to paying rent to landlords who pay property taxes. At the same time, many corporates who employ illegal immigrants pay NO taxes on their profits. If illegal immigration is "bringing down the wage standard," and I'm not sure that it is, then doesn't it make far more sense to crack down on the companies that employ illegal immigrants for their own benefit rather than penalizing hardworking people who are only looking for a better life for themselves and their familes? Should we officially rescind the invitation on the Statue of Liberty?
Sure it makes sense to crack down on companies who hire illegals. However, it doesn't make "more" sense than cracking down on illegals entering the country, it needs to be done in conjunction. They are, in fact, illegal - i.e. ain't 'sposed to be here. "Don't smear all immigrants, legal or not, with the crimes of a few." What's your concept of "a few"? You haven't looked at the stats, have you? They and/or their offspring commit crimes. And where do you think a large percentage of the hispanic gang members come from? Funny how "hardworking" is the favorite label like to paste on the poor. How about "overprocreating"? Whose fault is it when those living in marginal circumstances continue to make babies they can't provide for? Hint: Not mine. How much of a contribution do you figure these illegals make? Besides the fortune our government has already sent over the years, they send what they can back to Mexico or wherever they come from. That's revenue out, not in. They burden the health care system without contributing to it. They may well bring disease in with them since they're not screened as lawful immigrants are. Not seeing an upside here. "At the same time, many corporates who employ illegal immigrants pay NO taxes on their profits." How do you figure this? I'm not even sure what you're talking about. They still answer to the IRS. And how does this in any way weaken the case for cracking down on illegals? And you speak of cracking down on companies who hire them as if it's a totally separate issue from "penalizing" the illegals. Do you have some image of the company being "cracked down on" without the illegals being sent back? - i.e. the "penalty" in your view? Okay, it makes you sad there are downtrodden have-nots in the world. Okay, but opening the floodgates here isn't the answer.

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