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Jon Stewart is smarter than Les Moonves

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This is the kind of stuff that makes me want to bang my head against a wall -- the kind of stuff that told me there was a need for something like Geek Philosophy. Star-Telegram.com (of Dallas-Fort Worth) has a new piece up about Jon Stewart that seems to go out of its way to misunderstand its own conclusions about Stewart’s influence and importance in today’s culture. It starts out something like this:

American culture, it seems, can’t decide whether to classify Stewart as a comedian or a journalist.

Stewart’s late-night newscast parody, The Daily Show, airs four nights a week in a time slot that makes it an alternative to local newscasts. Big-name media figures like Ted Koppel and Bill Moyers have indicated they respect his opinions and take him seriously.

And surveys show that an astonishing number of young people claim they get most of their news from watching The Daily Show.

The implication being, of course, that Yaaaahh! The sky is falling! Young people are morons! We’re all doomed and it’s Jon Stewart’s fault! Where did we go wrong with our children?

Oh, and the article is accompanied by a really unflattering caricature of the really quite cute Stewart:

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The fretting going on over Stewart and The Daily Show is astonishing:

Should we laugh at him? Or should we take him seriously? Both. Because Jon Stewart’s approach to the day’s headlines — too funny to be serious, too serious to be ignored — just might be where real TV news is headed.

Again, it’s: Noooooooo! End of the world as we know!

But it’s not as if the author of this piece, Alyson Ward, doesn’t have all the facts -- she’s knows what the real deal is:

“I mean, you’ve got stoned slackers watching your dopey show every night . . . .” [Fox News windbag Bill O’Reilly] told Stewart, apparently a little irritated by the slight [of John Kerry skipping O’Reilly’s show in favor of Stewart’s]. “Eighty-seven percent are intoxicated when they watch it.”

(It was later pointed out that, according to Nielsen Media Research, Daily Show viewers are better educated than O’Reilly’s audience — more likely to have completed four years of college.)

Yeah, that’s the way you present a fair look at what you’re covering: you put info that should be closer to your lede in a parenthetical.

But wait, it gets so much better:

The Lilliputian Stewart doesn’t look like he has the strength to turn the news industry on its ear.

What the fuck? Stewart’s height has something to do with this? Why not just call him the runt of the playground and hold him down while the big kids beat him up?

Fortunately, the big kids refuse to comply, and -- throughout the article -- continually point out that Stewart is way more than a featherweight and is plenty reason for the big kids to be scared.

More:

The confusion over Stewart — is he a comedian? is he a journalist? — is a symptom of this sea change in the news business, [Darrell West, a political science professor at Brown University who studies politics and the media] says. “The line between news and entertainment has blurred over the last decade,” he says. “You have a lot of people getting public affairs information from those late-night shows and Jon Stewart. And this is especially the case for young people — for some of those people, it’s their only news.”

No lie. A couple of years ago, the Pew Research Center for the People and the Press surveyed Americans about how they get their political news. And get this: Twenty-one percent of young people (ages 18-29) said they regularly get their news from comedy shows such as Saturday Night Live and The Daily Show. (And 23 percent said they regularly read a newspaper.)

But here’s the real lede of this story, buried way the fuck at the bottom of the long piece -- in other words, where few casual readers are going to get:

The Annenberg Public Policy Center conducted a national survey just before the 2004 election; about 19,000 adults were asked six questions about the presidential campaign. Frankly, no one did very well: Overall, people got about 45 percent of the answers right. But those who said they’re Jon Stewart fans did much better than average, getting 60 percent of the answers correct. In fact, Daily Show viewers got higher scores on average than people who said they regularly watch national news and those who said they read newspapers.

That’s the story, right there: Traditional “journalism” is not doing its job, and so Jon Stewart and The Daily Show are doing it for them. But Alyson Warde and Star-Telegram.com simply cannot assimilate this obvious fact, it’s so far removed from what we all “know” is “true”:

And last year, while CBS searched for an evening news anchor to replace Dan Rather, there was speculation — seriously — that Stewart might be given a role on the nightly newscast.

Right: “seriously.” Because Stewart is just a funnyman standup comedian telling jokes about how there’s not enough room on airplanes and what’s with the tiny bag of peanuts anyway? I mean, what an insane idea, hiring Jon Stewart to convey the news? Kooky!

When The Associated Press asked CBS chief Les Moonves about Stewart, he wouldn’t rule out the possibility, pointing out that the network was trying to reinvent the news, “making it younger and more relevant, something that younger people can relate to. . . .”

It’s not a crazy idea, West says: “Some young people trust Jon Stewart more than they do their nightly anchors.”

And this is where my headbanging progresses to the point of giving myself a concussion. Stewart is not about drawing the kids in to watch the serious grownup news! He is not about being hip... unless “hip” means “intelligent and informed and unwilling to tolerate bullshit and hypocrisy.” If Les Moonves wants to reinvent the news, wants to take a cue from Stewart, how about making the news more about, you know, the news?

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Articles like this drive me nuts, because they fail to recognize one simple fact: you can't find The Daily Show funny unless you are familiar with the news or at least the people and situations that the news stories are about. Last night's Colbert Report had a joke that relied on the audience recognizing Cheney's face and getting the connection to the comment being made. Before Cheney shot the lawyer, I'm guessing that a significant chunk of the American public couldn't positively pick Cheney out of a lineup of similar older white guys. As for your point about "traditional journalism," I totally agree. The head honchos at the NYT and other venerable print and TV news outlets are bleeding viewers/readers at a rapid rate, and they're frantically trying to punch up the delivery (see the Red Eye "hip" free paper that the Chicago Tribune distributes locally). What they're only starting to realize is that they've lost most of us 25-49 year olds to online news sites and blogs that give us the stories as they happen. Why should I bother watching the 10:00 news when I'm already familiar with 75% of the stories they're telling, and the other 25% are either fluff pieces or promotional crap tying into whatever network movie was just on? I'd rather watch Jon Stewart make fun of those stories, since I already know the facts behind them.
Well duh, of course I get my news from The Daily Show (although, and this is an important point, not exclusively so). They're the only ones not afraid to call bullshit on people. All the mainstream new networks are so scared of being accused of bias that they won't ever bother to point out when someone is lying. And, of course, they always have to present both sides of any issue. 99% of scientists believe global warming is happening, and is a big problem? Ok, great, get one of them, and get one of the crazy 1% to debate him. Make sure you act like they're equally valid viewpoints, and definitely don't mention that the dude from the 1% is on Exxon's payroll. Maybe that'll get those mean Rebuplicans to stop yelling about the "liberal media".
One can't help being reminded about the fuss that was being made about a decade back about another "entertainer"--the one who brags about having talent on loan from God--who was also being taken more seriously than some journalists. But then that guy catered to an older crowd--so of course, he was taken more seriously. As for Jon Stewart's influence on the media... Er, excuse me, but blaming Jon Stewart for dumbed-down newspapers is like blaming Jaime Escalante for poor math scores. I'm not a big Jon Stewart fan, but geez, people, get a life. Bashing Stewart is not going to "save" the media.
Testify, my friends! === Articles like this drive me nuts, because they fail to recognize one simple fact: you can't find The Daily Show funny unless you are familiar with the news or at least the people and situations that the news stories are about. === Very true. And it occurs to me now that the reason Stewart's fans might be more informed in general about current events isn't just because of Jon -- isn't because they're getting their news ONLY from The Daily Show -- but because they're more involved in the first place and are seeking out other alternative news sources. You know, Jon's fans are reading The New York Times but also The Village Voice and the British Guardian and the Sydney Morning Herald and Media Matters and Eschaton...
Ugh... I'm from Texas (and the Dallas/Ft. Worth area at that)... And now I remember why I moved away. The mind-numbing conservatism and stupidity will do that to you. I will say this however... That article lends validity to the fact that I'm a young, college age adult who really does use the Daily Show (and now also the Colbert Report) as virtually my only source of TV news, along with A LOT of internet news. In my mind, those are the only sources WORTHY of my paying attention to, because everything else requires expending so much energy just to watch it. It's not because it's so serious either... On the contrary, I find it patently absurd to watch two extremists duke it out with a childish game of name-calling. That's what it seems like a lot of the news has turned into these days. The news shows that don't use those kinds of methods instead employ many journalists who simply skirt the issues. No one seems like they are willing to take risks... Jon Stewart, on the other hand, being a comedian, really has nothing to lose as journalist, because he "isn't one." For this reason, he plays the smartest social and political commentary game of anyone out there, and gets to have fun while doing it. I think that's the thing that the journalists have been forgetting lately... Taking the world seriously is fine, but you can only take so much seriousness before you want to kill yourself. Does that mean I take everything that Jon says verbatim? No. Of course not... It IS still for fun. But you can't deny that he makes some pretty damn good points along the way. Wow... Apparently I had a lot more to say on this issue than I originally thought. Hee hee... :-) Thanks for the link btw. I'll send it to my dad who still lives in Texas. He'll get a kick out of it.
Keeping in mind that many of our best newspeople were/are actually WITTY--Brokaw, Jennings, Cronkite, Anderson Cooper etc., could there possibly be a corrolation between being a curious, thoughtful, attentive journalist AND being witty? Anderson Cooper COULD have as likely ended up hosting "The Daily Show" after Kilborn left (y'all remember "The Mole?"), just as Jon could have gone from his early talk shows to being a cultural critic/reporter to potential anchor. In the end it's ALL show biz...
My mother is still a traditional news follower--gets her daily paper delivered in the morning and reads it over breakfast, watches the local news at 6 and the national news at 6:30, and then the 11:00 if she hasn't fallen asleep. She was flabbergasted when I told her how I get my daily news (radio news on the commute, local paper and blogs online during lunchbreak, and then TDS and TCR in the evening--CNN, et al, only get viewed during national crises such as Katrina and 9/11), since it's so totally different. She's asked me for years now what it is that takes up my time on the internet, and lately I've been linking her to the blogs as a great place for information.
"I'm a young, college age adult who really does use the Daily Show (and now also the Colbert Report) as virtually my only source of TV news, along with A LOT of internet news." But there's a HUGE difference between using 'The Daily Show' as your only source of TV news, and using 'The Daily Show' as your only source of news, period. It's the latter that so much of the handwringing over Jon Stewart (wrongly) implies. As another commenter pointed out, that simply would not work: if you watch no news other than 'The Daily Show,' you wouldn't understand what Jon is talking about 99 percent of the time.
Kierkegaard is all I have to say...'dasien' too though...Keep it up guys...sometime, someone eventually takes hold...SPIN it!

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