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Does anyone get ‘V for Vendetta’?

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[crossposted at FlickFilosopher.com]

Or should I be asking myself, What color is the sky in my world? Is it me? Am I the crazy person here?

The reviews for V for Vendetta are running 75 percent fresh over at Rotten Tomatoes, but even the positive reviews don’t seem to really understand the film, its mythological underpinnings, and all the really powerful, primal stuff at work in it. (Maybe I’m the one totally off-track: judge for yourself.) It’s not necessarily about not understanding comic-book-ishness, the interplay of strong imagery and metaphoric dialogue... although even with the enigmatic metaphors and verbal playfulness of the Vendetta graphic novel drastically played down, many of the film’s detractors still curse V’s penchant for florid speech.

Cuz this is pretty typical: Eclipse Magazine’s Michelle Alexandria, who thinks Vendetta is “one of the most provocative movies in several years,” says this with an apparent straight face:

This dark material is almost too perfectly suited to the duo's warped view of the world. It's surprising; ok not really, that Moore loathes this adaptation. This is where I have to say that I haven't read Moore's V for Vendetta...

I’m not suggesting one must read the source material for every movie before reviewing a movie, but surely one must read the source material if one wants to compare the two, right? Or am I the crazy person here?

Carina Chocano in the Los Angeles Times gets so bogged down in details that she misses the forest for the trees:

Apparently, in the future, paintings by Vermeer, busts of Nefertiti and Velvet Underground songs covered by Cat Power will be banned, but the middle classes will live in spacious, comfortably appointed apartments. Butter will be scarce, but red spray paint will be readily available to any 9-year-old girl.

Hmm. I suppose it’s just possible that an oppressive regime looking to control its populace would not, say, create an artificial “shortage” of a treat like butter. Or that the spacious blandness of white-box apartments could work as a metaphor for a cultural sterility of a society that appears not to have enough of a taste for art and music to decry its banning. But what do I know -- I’m a crazy person.

A few critics get it. Colin Covert at StarTribune.com approves of director James McTeigue’s metaphoric eye:

He subtly notes how the homes of average citizens are stripped of all cultural artifacts except a flat-screen TV and a portrait of Sutler, yet he stages the film's action set-pieces with the flamboyance of a satirical cabaret act.

But who cares about comic-book-ishness and metaphors and such when you can misunderstand politics? Like Kevin Carr at 7(m) Pictures:

Trying to make a significant message “V for Vendetta” has vendetta against modern conservative politics. In the middle, things turn out to be more about the oppression of homosexuals (a blindingly obvious dig at the recent gay marriage issues that have gone down in flames) than about politics. I would imagine a heavily fascist government would more interested in detaining and arresting radicals and subversives than someone who has a copy of the Koran or the lesbian couple living on their own.

I guess Kevin doesn’t understand that conservatives are generally pro small, un intrusive government, and that the oppression of gays is political, that, in the appropriate political environment, deviating approved norms of sexuality and religion and lifestyle is radical and subversive.

Kevin also suggests that “rather than being anti-fascist, ‘V for Vendetta’ comes off as being pro-terrorist,” and he’s not alone in this bizarre conception. “A terrorist as a hero?” asks the headline of SeattlePI.com’s review, by William Arnold... and he likes the film (I think):

There's also a perverse fun -- and suspense -- in never being quite sure just how far down the road this movie is going to travel in sanctioning terrorism and making us pull for an al-Qaida-like renegade who wants to destroy an edifice that is one of Western civilization's most beloved symbols.

As it turns out, the movie goes pretty darn far down this road. And while this will strike some people as, at best, irresponsible, and, at worst, treasonous, it struck me as a subtle, cheeky way to make us look at just how seductive the psychology of terrorism can be when you're sure you're in the right.

Treasonous? Isn’t that what King George and his lot said about George Washington and his lot? For all the reviews complaining about the supposed obviousness of the philosophies of the film -- like the idea that history is written by the winners, who get to decide who gets labeled a terrorist and who gets labeled a freedom fighter -- it’s clear that not everyone is familiar with these “obvious” ideas.

My new pal Colin Covert again:

V is a terrorist, but is a government that controls its people through fear morally superior? Wasn't the Boston Tea Party terrorism in service of liberty? When do we call terrorism heroism? Tackling such ambiguities is what will keep audiences arguing about "V for Vendetta" while most Saturday-night popcorn movies evaporate before we reach the exits.

Mike D’Angelo in Las Vegas Weekly sees an even more nuanced subtlety in the character of V:

[P]ay no attention to the sputtering of various critics and pundits to the effect that V for Vendetta glorifies terrorism. Even if you're not inclined to giggle at V's vociferous volleys of verbiage, it's abundantly clear that the Wachowski Brothers... view the character with a mixture of admiration and revulsion.... V for Vendetta presents the case for violence as a necessary evil, but it also employs a patent lunatic as its mouthpiece. Only in a climate where Bill Maher is pilloried merely for saying the 9/11 hijackers were not cowards could such a stance be perceived as uncritical or irresponsible, rather than questioning.

Still, we must endure geek-haters like Eleanor Ringel Gillespie in the Atlanta Journal-Constitution, who sneers:

"V for Vendetta" is the sort of movie that elicits passionate debate on the Internet among people with user names like Lord Asriel, Killdozer, Rant Breath and DocPazuzu.

I guess that’s as good a way as any to dismiss something you can’t work up a passion for yourself.

Colin Covert again:

This rousing anthem to defiance -- political, personal and philosophical -- also defies a longstanding rule of comic-book movies. Action blockbusters usually value artful explosions more than incendiary ideas. The gripping, intelligent and innovative "V" overturns that tradition. It refuses to be a trivial thrill ride.

At least I’m not alone in my crazy-person-ness.

16 Comments

No, definitely not alone. I have yet to see the movie, but it seems to be pretty true to the book.
Great write-up. I just saw the movie over the weekend. It was wonderful. I've been a fan of the Wachowskis for a while, and have defended the Matrix through dozens of haters in my circle of friends. This is because of what goes on behind the movie. People don't choose to figure it out or understand. The same was for this movie. It was so gorgeous that I knew, once I went home and started looking at the reviewed, a good three-quarters of the reviewers "wouldn't get it." I was right, as are you. Great post.
You are not alone. Your review was the only one that captured my feeling at seeing this movie. I was literally shaking with emotion toward the end as I realized just how perfectly they were going to wrap everything up -- how the dominoes were going to fall. That's not hyperbole, I was shivering and thought I was cold in the theatre, but when I focused I realized it wasn't cold. I was shivering out of the primal emotions that were being stirred up within me.
You're not crazy. it really is good. And it really does show a fascist regime being just a fascist regime. The fact that we see a fascist regime and thing "hey! that sounds like pertinent political commentary!" is telling. We don't have to. We could think that they're so very like nazis. Damn nazis. But that's not what they're saying. We do have a very difficult time with the idea that terrorist acts can ever be a good thing. Or more, than we'd ever agree with the people doing it. A self-defense mechanism, I imagine. I dunno that a society can survive if it thinks that individuals can and should try violent overthrows when they don't like what's going on.
M.A., look at what you've said. History HAS ALREADY been rewritten by the "winners". There are legions of people that have been educated NOT to get it, almost literally. Been to SMU, where they've apparently already excavated for the next Presidential *ahem* library? Have you seen Steve Rhodes' heinous review? That moron says: "But close your eyes and think of the World Trade Center as the explosions fill the theater in the movie's bombastic and operatic ending and see if you are still willing to applaud." Clearly he's been well-educated by our current "winners". As a WTC survivor taking a sufficient amount of spitting umbrage at such idiocy that I can't respond as coherently as I'd like, I would rather paraphrase Eugene Novikov's serene and eloquent review for those of us who have yet to drink all the Kool-Aid: "...though the similarities are chilling, the question isn't really [sic] 'how close we are'...What this brilliant and angry movie is really telling us is simply this: Pay attention."
Plus, Michelle from Eclipse says "Weaving bores". Clearly she was only watching with half her senses. I felt a mad crush developing following that florid alliteration, but I didn't swoon until the wounded tiger purr... "Myyy turrrrn." Knives (weapons of the common man) flashing through the air. Take me now. Hee.
And (last comment on this subject, promise) Ty Burr of the Boston Globe makes another point. "The real villain is a cowed and lazy citizenry. Meaning all of us." I often wonder about the corporate profit motive, the 100-hour work-week - blue, pink, and white collar - and its relationship to people's just being too d***ed tired at the end of the day/week/month for vigilant citizenry and activism. I know I could do a lot more FOIA searches if I weren't consumed with managing my own economic survival.
littlem, I'm with you on that crush. Which is all the more disturbing given how V treats a woman he actually loves.
Sorry, girls, Hugo is my boyfriend. (See my new Boyfriend Blogging at FlickFilosopher.com.) :-> Seriously, though: you're 100 percent right, littlem. It's hard for a citizenry to be involved when we're all so damn tired just from making a living.
This is the most powerful movie I've seen in a long time. I don't know if I get all the mythological underpinnings, but I definitely get the primal stuff. I don't even know how coherant I can be right now, I just saw it a few hours ago. I do know that I'm upset largely because at the end I still wasn't hopeful. All my utoian ideals just deserted me or something, and all I could see was the impossibility of every single one of us ever taking up our responsiblity to the world. Make that any one of us, the masses. The ones who actually do are always the heroes.
Actually I was more impressed by the original graphic novel, but then as one of those annoying people who actually read, I would be. Anyway, I was kinda disappointed in most of the movie. The best scenes were direct cribs from the book, and the filmmmakers' improvements weren't all that much of an improvement. (For example, the head fascist in the book was a three-dimensional character who actually believed in what he was doing--a scary testament to the power of belief--while the head fascist in the movie was just another power-mad looney meant to symbolize you-know-who.) There were some additions I liked--the homage to "Places of the Heart," for example. But for the most part, I couldn't help wondering if the Brothers W "got" Moore as well as they think they did. And yes, MaryAnn, I think we can both agree that comparing the book and the movie without reading the book first is a serious faux pas.
Hi Mary Ann and everyone, I usually agree with most of your reviews – but Vendetta really left me pretty empty To be honest – maybe I’m getting old (turning 31 in 3 days) –but watching the house of parliament blow up was not a satisfying culmination of some democratic desire masked in revolutionary fervor – or even satisfying as simple minded vengeance for past crimes – if I understand the storyline correctly V with his villainous visage and verbose veracity of vapid venting which vilely valorized the vacuous-ness of his vengeance (sorry, blame the screenwriter and my thesaurus for that) was meant to be a flawed hero –mirroring our impotent rage alongside our powerlessness and indifference to the specter of increasingly fascist governmental policy (read: Bush will lead to Hitler the next generation) along with the double speak that can allow governments to portray terrorists as heroes and vice versa. Ultimately the movie left me cold –when it should have engaged me – plus the scenes with the public and the level of fascism that existed in future England were never clearly portrayed – I mean why would they hate homosexuals, at least enough to put them in concentration camps – in fact the whole scene with the teen lesbians seemed contrived – in fact if terrorism and Christian intolerance was the primary source of hatred –wouldn’t the first priority inmates have been Arabs and/or Muslims. Plus although I liked Weaving as V and Hurt as the Orwellian dictator (who seemed to be having an episode of evil-villain PMS by the way), Portman’s annoying accent really kept pulling me out of her part –they should have left her as an American. All in all the movie felt disjointed and uneven, though it was thoughtful and had some inspired bits here and there. But enough already with the 1984 analogies filmmakers/comic strip writers! –they should’ve adapted Huxley’s ‘Brave new world’ instead ..
I'd love to see a serious adaptation of *Brave New World*...
I absolutely loved "V," mostly because of the political and philosophical thinking in the movie. I definately could compare the storyline in this movie to the Boston Tea Party or Shay's Rebellion of the early 1770's in America. It seems many people these days don't get many of the deep-meaning ideas this movie, and other movies present, for example, the Matrix trilogy. I love movies like this because of the symbolism and metaphors used as legitimate and distinct storyline ingredients.
How can you not understand the flim? I believe most don't understand the comic. The comic ideals were based from The American Revloution, the movie tries to deal with these in a metaphorical furture world, because the creators of the original DC COMIC were somewhat concerned for America's future, at least that's what it said on the internet years ago. I believe, since the media, these days, unless it's local, refuse to make any effort to study or learn of the trivial things people naturally jump to conclusions. The movie is simply asking a question, "When is it time to "Stand up" against a goverment, and why, and how should the public decide to deal with it, as both an individual and society. I saw the movie today, and it's far superior to "The Matrix" trilogy and "Spider Man" movies.
You're not crazy, you're lucky - lucky to manage to enjoy a movie as much as you did. It spoke to you a little more than it spoke to me, and a hell of a lot more than it spoke to those pretentious snobs at RottenTomatoes. I'm a big believer in the subjectivity of art, so if you're looking for a definitive answer, I don't think that you'll find one. I think you can be content with the fact that you managed to get excited and garner a lot of enjoyment from a movie. I'd leave it at that. On the subject of terrorists, as an Israeli who's had time to think about the subject, I've decided that employing terrorism is morally wrong when it targets innocents civilians and a valid method of war when aimed at symbols and strategic targets, avoiding unnecessary dead. Basically, what's wrong is murder of innocents, not the concept of "terror". I liked the movie quite a lot by the way, just as not much as you did. I am though, despite being a heterosexual male, a little bit in love with Hugo Weaving, but I've been that ever since the Matrix.

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